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Sunday, December 4, 2005 - 23:50:39Z
Take a look a the map that I photoshopped the other day as a reference. Today I'm going to talk about the different classes of airspace around Buttonville. There are actually 5 classes of airspace around Buttonville, but you can only see four of them on my map. Lets start off with what you can see and I've highlighted. Class Charlie Rules: Services offered: For VFR flight inside class charlie you must be 500' below any cloud and 1 mile horizontally away from cloud. 3 miles of visibility minimum. Class Delta Rules: Services offered: For VFR flight inside class delta you must be 500' below any cloud and 1 mile horizontally away from cloud. 3 miles of visibility minimum. Class Echo Rules: Services offered: For VFR flight inside class echo you must be 500' below any cloud and 1 mile horizontally away from cloud. 3 miles of visibility minimum. Now for the items you cant see on my map. Class Foxtrox Class Golf Rules: Services offered: For VFR flight inside class golf you must be clear of all cloud and 2 miles of visibility minimum below 1000' AGL. Above 1000' AGL you must be 500' below any cloud and 2000' horizontally away from cloud. 1 mile visibility minimum. Phew! I'm sure I can remember all this. Comments (6) | Permalink | Category: Air Law
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Blake,
Your last class G weather minima is reversed. Below 1000' 2m vis and clear of cloud, above 1000' the 500-1000-1 rule applies.
Great entries though. Good luck on your flight test. I'm going for the fourth rain date on the 27th. Passed the ground portion so I just need to fly.
Posted by: Chris on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 08:03:50Z
Oops. That should be 500-2000-1 rule for above 1000'
Posted by: Chris on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 08:05:56Z
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the correction! I've updated the page accordingly.
Good luck on your test :)
Posted by: Blake on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:20:42Z
*sigh* Errors, errors, errors... What misleading text. Since this was written a long time ago, I hope you know this stuff better by now. It would be good to clean up this blog then.
"There are actually 5 classes of airspace around Buttonville, but you can only see four of them on my map."
It depends on how you define "around Buttonville", but I'd say that there is airspace of every class around Buttonville, A-G. That makes for seven classes.
"For VFR flight inside class charlie you must be 500' below any cloud and 1 mile horizontally away from cloud."
No, it's 500' below cloud OR 1 mile away from cloud. OR not "and". In other words, vertical separation can be less than 500' if you're a mile or more away from that cloud. Similarly, if vertical separation is 500' or more, you can be as close to the cloud laterally as you want. You can be directly below it (i.e., have ZERO lateral separation).
"Class "E" (or Echo) airspace is found around only at the Downsview control zone. I have no idea why."
Actually, there is a TON of Class E airspace around Toronto area. Look closely at your map and all those Victor airways. And how about all those E700 symbols and the like? What do you think that stands for?..
Posted by: chephy on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 00:33:08Z
I guess I could clarify this post a little.
"Around Buttonville" means what you can see on the map that I provided a link to. I should also clarify that I'm talking about control zones specifically and not necessarily airspace outside of control zones.
I will have to correct you with your weather minima however. I am going to direct you to CAR 602.114:
602.114 No person shall operate an aircraft in VFR flight within controlled airspace unless:
(...)
(c) the distance of the aircraft from cloud is not less than 500 feet vertically and one mile horizontally; and
Both qualifications need to be satisfied if you want to fly in Class "C" Airspace. 500' vertical separation AND 1 mile horizontal separation from cloud.
If you find any more errors on my blog, please feel free to let me know so that I may update it.
Posted by: Blake on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:40:16Z
"I will have to correct you with your weather minima however. I am going to direct you to CAR 602.114: ... Both qualifications need to be satisfied if you want to fly in Class "C" Airspace. 500' vertical separation AND 1 mile horizontal separation from cloud."
I don't think you're correcting me, I think you're pointing out a problem with wording in the CARs. Because if you must always have 500' vertical AND 1 mile horizontal separation, then you can't ever fly VFR in Class C at all. Think about it. Somewhere in the world there is a cloud exactly at your altitude. Sure, it's way more than 1 mile away from you, but it's not at least 500' above you, so one of the criteria is not met.
Similarly, suppose you want to fly at 3000' AGL in Class C airspace, with an overcast cloud layer starting at 10000' AGL. Can't do it... the 500' separation criterion is met, but since you're directly below the cloud, the horizontal separation is 0 miles, which is less than 1 mile.
Posted by: chephy on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 22:48:46Z